Comments on: Comic Update: Veritas Sciurus – Must Web Designers Code?

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SitePoint Podcast #51: Real Web Designers Get It | PHP Podcasts — Tue, 04 May 2010 15:21:56 +0000

[...] created a bit of a storm of controversy, and CSSquirrel, another friend of the show, has a great sort of summary of all the opinions that were put forward in response to this. We’ll link to that post in the show notes. But, [...]

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By: Jennie

Jennie — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:20:21 +0000

None of your comics are working at the moment

By: Krzysztof Maczyński

Krzysztof Maczyński — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:04:16 +0000

There’s no comic at http://www.cssquirrel.com/comic/?comic=55. It says “big error”.

By: Jin

Jin — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:28:04 +0000

Kyle, you know where I stand on this issue. I feel like much has been said over the years, repeatedly about the benefits of a web designers being able to code html/css. I remember your post a while back generated a lot interesting discussions. http://www.cssquirrel.com/2009/10/14/designers-and-code/

Instead of filling up your comment section, here are a few points of my own: http://www.8164.org/web-designers-coding/

Thanks

By: Michael Kozakewich

Michael Kozakewich — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:48:52 +0000

I’d put an “EARLIER…” on the third panel, to avoid confusion.

By: SeanJA

SeanJA — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:56:55 +0000

If the ‘designer’ cannot code, he has no place destroying my markup/code that I worked so painstakingly on to make it easy to finish the final product because _he_ thinks it looks _better_ @%$#@$%@#. As a designer who cannot code (or understand the semantic meaning of html tags apparently… h1 != fieldset > legend) just don’t, it will cause way more headaches in the future for everyone else when you do.

/rant

By: Jeffrey Schrab

Jeffrey Schrab — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:22:50 +0000

@Jeff Edsell – Referencing “Understanding Comics” as it applies to web development? Instant credibility, IMHO! Your point about the analogy of “artist and writers working together to make comics” to “graphic designers and coders, ahem, ‘markup-ers’ working together to make websites” I think is spot on.

By: Dustin Hansen

Dustin Hansen — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:21:53 +0000

Of course designers should understand coding. Does that mean they need to code each design themselves, no.

By: Bobby Jack

Bobby Jack — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:58:43 +0000

It’s one of my bugbears, but I think the use of the word ‘code’ in this context also puts a lot of designers off. HTML certainly shouldn’t be thought of as ‘coding’, as much as ‘marking up’; it’s very analogous to using punctuation. CSS, whilst much more complicated than HTML, isn’t really coding either. And some of the tricky layout-related concepts are actually pretty easily understood by most designers, in my experience.

(Embarrassed to say I just got the captcha wrong. I now feel non-sentient :(