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CSSquirrel » ie6 http://cssquirrel.com/blog opinions and news on web design Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:10:41 +0000 en hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comic Update: Robot or Not? http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2010/05/10/comic-update-bot-or-not/ http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2010/05/10/comic-update-bot-or-not/#comments Mon, 10 May 2010 17:30:59 +0000 Kyle Weems http://www.cssquirrel.com/?p=678 Today’s comic finishes (finally) the An Event Apart “storyline” that starts here, and has part #2 here. It features AEA speakers Andy Clarke, Nicole Sullivan and Ethan Marcotte. It also features Naepalm, the chinchilla alter-ego of Janae, one of my fellow Mindfly Web Studio designers. The comic also has a brief cameo by everyone’s favorite archaic browser complication: the dreaded hasLayout.

It’s been a long journey to crank out these three comics, which highlight some very important points. First, continuity in a web-design commentary webcomic is difficult at best. Second, that cheese tidal waves represent the best of all possible worlds. Finally, that An Event Apart: Seattle was an awesome extravaganza and Janae and I are still trying to squeeze out all the drops of precious information we absorbed into Mindfly’s waiting arms.

One of my favorite presentations was Ethan’s Dao of Flexibility, which discussed adaptive layouts and fluid grids in detail, opening my eyes to the real power of the world of media queries. I’ve been tinkering away in my acorn-filled lair since the conference, working away at a new design for this site that harnesses these arcane techniques for my own dark purposes. From time to time, I have to pause and laugh with evil glee.

Thanks, AEA.

We’ll now return to my regular schedule of making fun of HTML5 politics and Opera.

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Comic Update: Do Browsers Dream of HTML Sheep? http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2010/04/05/comic-update-do-browsers-dream-of-html-sheep/ http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2010/04/05/comic-update-do-browsers-dream-of-html-sheep/#comments Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:39:41 +0000 Kyle Weems http://www.cssquirrel.com/?p=656 Today’s comic, the first in a small An Event Apart related storyline, features Andy Clarke, Nicole Sullivan, Pete LePage and Naepalm in a future where rogue browsers must be “retired” by browserrunners.

It touches on what people may find hard to believe: Microsoft (like us) wants IE6 to die, already. In less than two hours after I post this, Pete LePage is going to get in front of the AEA audience and tell us that very thing.

I’ve got to get back to listening to more awesome speakers. Enjoy! (And if you’re at AEA, feel free to say hi to the guy in the CSSquirrel shirt. I don’t bite.)

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Comic Update: So Say We All http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2010/03/10/comic-update-so-say-we-all/ http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2010/03/10/comic-update-so-say-we-all/#comments Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:13:05 +0000 Kyle Weems http://www.cssquirrel.com/?p=639 Today’s comic is a bonus, bringing the count for this week to a nearly unprecedented two. I know, such generosity on my part staggers the mind. The comic also seems like fodder for some form of novelty t-shirt. I’ll get right on that.

Like most people that make websites, I heard of the funeral held for the cantankerous, ancient and malformed IE6; a funeral doubtlessly inspired by Google’s announced discontinuation of support for IE6 in many of their products this month. Like even Microsoft itself, I’m glad that there’s another nail in the coffin of this undead browser that still clings to the computers of many, many web users.

I realize that, funeral or no funeral, IE6 isn’t gone. Not yet. There’s entirely too many people still using it, making it unsafe to simply pile in the dirt over its head. But for me and my amazing coworkers at Mindfly Web Design Studio, it’s as good as dead. Seizing the opportunity provided by Google’s announcement, I pitched an idea taken from one Andy Clarke, Brit rockstar: Let’s stop explicitly supporting IE6, and feed it instead a universal, generic stylesheet for all sites. Those users who visit a site with IE6 will still get what they’re looking for, just in a more modest package.

Being hip designers on the cutting edge of awesome, they naturally all agreed with me. The hours once slavishly chained to the moribund beast in the woods now will be devoted to more fun tasks, like convincing clients that random pictures of their children will not increase online sales of tractors.

Today’s comic’s title is a reference to the Battlestar Galactica equivalent to “Amen” for those few of you not as deep in the sci-fi geek rabbit hole as yours truly. (This came directly from a great idea by Shaun Inman regarding “Six” that I failed to implement due to time.) It acts as a solemn affirmation of what’s being spoken.

So let’s get solemn: IE6 is dead to me. Let’s move on without it into the modern era web. So say we all.

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Posted at Mindfly: Web Developer Weems and the Case of the Multiclass Bungler (AKA, IE6) http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2009/06/18/posted-at-mindfly-ie6-multiclass-bungler/ http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2009/06/18/posted-at-mindfly-ie6-multiclass-bungler/#comments Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:31:58 +0000 Kyle Weems http://www.cssquirrel.com/?p=320 Nothing keeps you more humble in your industry than learning an important job-related detail, then discovering shortly thereafter that everyone else has known for years. For the past few months I’ve been experimenting with “OOP CSS”, taking advantage of mutliclassed elements to reduce stylesheet size and increase CSS reusability (after attending this presentation by Nicole Sullivan at Web Directions North.) Within the past couple weeks, I found some major roadblocks to using this technique with IE6 when being incautious about how the rule descriptors are ordered: IE6 majorly bungles multiple-class descriptor support.

To get a better view of what I’m speaking about (assuming you’re not already familiar with it), go check out the post I wrote at Mindfly about this very issue: Web Developer Weems and the Case of the Multiclass Bungler (AKA IE6).

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Site Construction: Getting IE6 Up To Speed http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2008/05/07/site-construction-getting-ie6-up-to-speed/ http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2008/05/07/site-construction-getting-ie6-up-to-speed/#comments Wed, 07 May 2008 16:12:10 +0000 Kyle Weems http://www.cssquirrel.com/?p=20 When my analytics started showing IE6 hits, I realized two things.

1. Even people following links from a place like meyerweb.com (thanks for visiting!) may still be using the dread bile beast of Redmond (Internet Explorer 6 for those not following along).

2. They probably want to be able to see/use the site like everyone else.

I needed to bite the bullet and get that particular “browser” (if you can call it that) to render the site functionally, since this page is crawling with PNGs. Unfortunately, after a couple of hours of tinkering around with Dean Edwards’ IE7, things hadn’t improved much. I got the transparency I needed, but a lot of unusual bugs crept into the header (clipped elements, missing buttons, unusable navigation, etc).

So since I’m expected to work on client sites at work and I was out of time, I made a quick fix (using conditional comments and a ie6-specific stylesheet as I describe here) and for the moment the IE6 version of the site has GIFs. Ugly-edged GIFs. I could clean them up, but I think I’m going to take a page out of Andy Clarke’s book and just do a completely different look for visitors with IE6, like he does with Stuff and Nonsense.

I suppose a design that was nothing more than a giant mother nagging you to upgrade your browser wouldn’t quite be appropriate.

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CSS3 Attribute Selectors: So Hot Right Now http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2008/05/01/css3-attribute-selectors-so-hot-right-now/ http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2008/05/01/css3-attribute-selectors-so-hot-right-now/#comments Thu, 01 May 2008 16:05:01 +0000 Kyle Weems http://www.cssquirrel.com/?p=14 As discussed here, I’m really getting into CSS3 Attribute Selectors. As mentioned earlier in my Yo-Yo post, I’ve been looking into solutions to make these guys more accessible, and I’ve come full circle to realize that I don’t need to do anything extra to incorporate them in my website and have users see them in any major browser. This is because:

1. The modern versions of Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, and Opera all support them. (Here’s a test page at Mindfly‘s website to prove the point).

2. The Dean Edwards IE7 script DOES extend full CSS3 attribute selector support to IE6 (I’m guessing my earlier tests had an error, because now I’m showing full compliance with this second test page that includes that script (once again, at Mindfly).

The CSS3 features I’m really looking for support for now, then, are the CSS3 pseudoclasses and multiple background images. *drool* Multiple background images alone would help cut down on my markup immensely, making features such as rounded boxes so much less of a pain in the arse.

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Yo-Yo http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2008/04/24/yo-yo/ http://cssquirrel.com/blog/2008/04/24/yo-yo/#comments Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:11:03 +0000 Kyle Weems http://www.cssquirrel.com/?p=11 I’ve been getting more obsessed with attribute selectors these days. They do such delightful things, and really help me cut down on the markup I need for a site. The problem, of course, is browser compatibility. So I started working on some javascript to give IE7 the functionality for CSS3 attribute selectors.

Then I discovered to my total shock that IE7 actually does support CSS3 attribute selectors.

Someone should tell Sitepoint this, as their reference incorrectly states that it does not.

However, IE6 doesn’t support ANY attribute selectors, so I went to the blackboard again to write a script for that.

Then I discovered that Dean Edwards’ IE7 script does give IE6 attribute support. So I stopped writing my own script and went to check that out.

A while later, I discovered that the Dean Edwards script, however, does not give full support to IE6 for css3 attribute selectors. (Most notably, *= doesn’t seem to work).

So now I’m working on that script again.

I think I’m beginning to understand what a yo-yo feels like.

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